Monday, November 10, 2008

Abortion, A Medical Procedure??

In a previous blog I named "A Conversation with Satan??!!!" I quoted from an email exchange regarding abortion. At one point the person states the following "I don't think the "grossness" of an abortion is the main point or issue. Lots of medical procedures look gross; I have to trust medical professionals that they use as humane procedures as possible"

In sharing this with a good friend of mine, as I was in utter shock that anybody could compare such attrocities to a normal medical procedure, my friend responded with the following points which are very worthy of sharing. It presents more of a logical, practical, procedural perspective, yet very true and valid:

"...treating it like a "routine medical procedure" would actually be significantly better than what we have now. How can I say this you ask? Well, what happens with an invasive medical procedure? Let's list some things...

1) Someone has to sit down with you, clearly explain the risks of the procedure, alternatives to it, and the dangers involved, including health risks and long-term effects.

2) They won't do the procedure the second you ask for it. You usually have to wait at least 24 hours to schedule it, consider the risks, fast in preparation, etc.

3) If you are a minor, you must get a parent or guardian's consent, barring court intervention.

4) If you have an invasive procedure requiring an anesthetic (especially a general), someone must be present to take you home and watch after you, knowing you had an invasive medical procedure that could result in hemmorhaging.

5) Only licensed professionals can perform an invasive medical procedure at a government-approved healthcare institution or office.

6) If the procedure involves a life-changing decision, you generally will get impartial psychological consultation before making a decision.

7) If a child does have an invasive medical procedure, the parents must be notified unless it poses a danger to the child. Also if any crimes are involved (such as abuse, incest, sex with a minor) they are required by law to report it to the police and turn over pertinent documentation as evidence.

What do these 7 things have in common? ZERO of them are true for an abortion. ZERO. A medical procedure, they say? If these regulations had to be followed, I bet the number of abortions in this country would be cut in half immediately. And this doesn't take away rape, incest, or health of the mother concerns at all. Rather, it takes them into account along with all other medical procedure protocols.
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These points are so true and obvious, and yet society chooses to close its eyes to the hypocrisy of standards that we apply.

God Bless (+)

Stephen

Wednesday, November 05, 2008

Where do we go from here???

For those of you out there who may be discouraged by the election results and wondering why God allows this to happen when what we were fighting for was what God demands us to obey and do....Here are some scripture passages that I hope you'll find consoling and help you see through the mess us humans choose to bring upon ourselves... There's always hope, as long as we trust and hope in God....Nobody is greater than Him.

Double your prayers and sacrifices, do not be disheartened and continue to fight the good fight, with even more determination now!!!

(Ps 66:10)

For you, O God, tested us; you refined us like silver


(Is 48:9-11)

For my own name's sake I delay my wrath;
for the sake of my praise I hold it back from you,
so as not to cut you off.

See, I have refined you, though not as silver;
I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.

For my own sake, for my own sake, I do this.
How can I let myself be defamed?
I will not yield my glory to another.


(Jeremiah 9:6-8)

You live in the midst of deception;
in their deceit they refuse to acknowledge me,"
declares the LORD.

Therefore this is what the LORD Almighty says:
"See, I will refine and test them,
for what else can I do
because of the sin of my people?

Their tongue is a deadly arrow;
it speaks with deceit.
With his mouth each speaks cordially to his neighbor,
but in his heart he sets a trap for him.


(Daniel 12:10)

Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.


(Zechariah 13:9)

I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on my name and I will answer them; I will say, 'They are my people,' and they will say, 'The LORD is our God.' "

And Finally remember Psalm 23:

The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want.

Even though I walk
through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.

God bless (+)

Stephen

Tuesday, November 04, 2008

A Conversation with Satan??!!

What follows is an exchange of emails regarding the issue of abortion. This merited posting because of the coldness and lack of feeling towards a life that will never be lived..The emails proceed in order from the first (top) to last (bottom). Names and places, if any, have been removed. What I wrote is in black. What the other person wrote is in red.

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Hey ........,

I hope you're doing well. I wanted to share this with you given the last conversation we had relating to election and moral issues.

Have a look at this video by Eduardo Verastegui that very graphically describes what abortion is all about. Please note - the video is VERY GRAPHIC.

Again please understand, I am NOT trying to tell you what to do (that is YOUR business and nobody elses) but trying to keep you informed - so your decision is an informed one..

http://www.obamamustsee.com/

Stephen

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Hi Stephen,

I don't mind sharing information; it's a good thing. I don't think the "grossness" of an abortion is the main point or issue. Lots of medical procedures look gross; I have to trust medical professionals that they use as humane procedures as possible. The point is that women should be able to maintain control of their own bodies and make their own decisions regarding pregnancy. It's just plain wrong to force personal or religious beliefs on other people- that is just not the way to win hearts and minds. In addition, some pro-life ideas scare me- for example, if a fertilized egg is considered alive, then the birth control pill is also a form of abortion as it can prevent fertilized eggs from implanting in the uterine wall. This goes way beyond the line.

On the politics side, I think that one issue voting is not the way to go. If it's the moral decency of the candidate that's the concern, then you could make the exact opposite argument if your single issue is the death penalty. Obama is against the death penalty, McCain is for the death penalty. In this situation Obama is the one with more respect for life while McCain; you can use the same pro-life arguments, just flipping sides. I think this makes voting based on the perceived morals of the candidate impossible.

Just my thoughts,
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Hi ........,

re: the "grossness" I refer too - this is not grossnes similar to that of any medical procedure. If I see a liver or a heart or a lung in surgery that is not gross. It is what is done to the life of that unborn child - it is utter murder. I am not sure how anybody can reconcile it to any other medical procedure... To see a mutilated head of child from an abortion and compare it to regular surgery shows me a scary dulling of conscience. There is no humanity in the procedure.

The point about women maintaining control of their own bodies is wrong because it implies that for my own sake I should do anything and everything possible for my own gratification... So if you are in my way, I should seek to eliminate you by whatever means (including physically). That is utter selfishness and insanity. It is not an imposition of personal religious beliefs - the imposition is being made on the life which is destroyed and not being given a chance. Think about it - what would we have achieved in our life if our mothers made that decision!!

I am not sure why you are scared of pro-life ideas. Yes, birth control is a form of abortion because life does start at conception. There is a precious sacred aspect of sex that exceeds in superiority the best orgasm or the sum of all the orgasms anybody can experience. Sex is not for my pleasure - because that implies I am using the other person for my own gratification - which makes it a selfish act - if this was the case why not bang an animal, a hole in the wall - anything that has an orifice. Sex is first and foremost for procreation. The orgasm that comes with it is a secondary plus (and a huge plus) - As a consequence the result of it is life beginning at conception - because if life did not begin at conception - then it truly never begun - forgive me, I am not trying to be crude or rude.

re: voting - this is NOT a sinlge issue - it is 4000-4400 lives snuffed daily It is 4000-4400 issues daily. re: McCain's support for the death penalty - if this is the case, he is wrong in doing so - no question about it. One then has to weigh out the issues - How many deaths daily with death penalty vs how many deaths daily with abortion? So yes it makes voting in relation to morals hard but then one is obliged to choose the lesser of two evils.

Take care

Stephen
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I know we're not going to agree on this ever, but I am curious- do you think that the pill (or IUDs or condoms etc) should also be illegal?
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In a moral society where the value of the human being, woman and sex are treated for the respect they deserve- yes they should be illegal because they lead to nothing more than the use and abuse of another human being (= exploitation - sexual or otherwise). The focus should be on educating every man, woman and child on the worth of each individual human being. In our current society - it's practically impossible.

The pill, IUD's, condoms, are a great injustice, insult and disrespect to the woman above all...because the man is telling the woman, "I want you for my pleasure, I want you this far, but not all of you". It's also an act of selfishness from the woman's side because she's also saying "you can only have me this much" - it is not the true giving of self totally to the other person. As I said in the previous email... Intercourse has a higher reason and a much more nobler cause than the physical pleasure (which obviously is not wrong) of two people...If it were not so, my marriage to my wife would be nothing more than a legally approved version of prostitution, and exploitation of another person for my own ends. Moreover if it were not so that there is a higher/nobler meaning why would be it wrong to be sleeping around? to "cheat" on my wife (I put cheat in quotation marks because it would not really be cheeting anymore), to go with any person you meet who shows an inkling of liking towards you? .... it just does not make sense.

All of the above have led to the serious dismantling of society, the increase in divorce and family breakdowns (this has been shown scientifically), because once you close yourself to the principal reason of an act so wonderful, you dissociate yourself from the totallity of the union associated in the act itself. Relationships can't last long like that because ultimately deep in the subconscious the other person is asking in more circumstances than just the bed - "Are they giving me their all? or is it only a part?" - this breaks down the trust - ultimately leading to a breakdown in the marriage/relationship.

Moreso, contracepting goes against the natural law itself. A good example can be found in an article in Proc. Biol. Sci. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18700206?dopt=Citation

There is order and a reason and a purpose for everything in nature. Breaking it causes havoc - in every form or way.

Stephen
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So that sounds like a yes then. I think we should leave the topic alone for now. I do respect your opinions and thank you for sharing them with me.
Best,
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Yes ......., that was a yes. No problem about leaving the topic alone... My point is to make you aware, which is my obligation, not to force you to accept - ultimately we all have to answer individually in front of our creator for what WE did, not what others did - The realization and understanding of the sanctity of life and its origin was implanted in us when we were created/conceived, but the full appreciation of this involves faith, and that's between you and God.. I have nothing to do with it.

Take care and have a wonderful day

Stephen

Monday, November 03, 2008

The Real Issue in this election!

The real issue in this election is not the economy. It is morality. If this nation is to survive and remain as great as it has been and as great as its founding fathers wanted it to be it must choose agains what is intrinsically and outrightly evil.

The choice is clear a party that supports life and one that does not....and for all the ranting on rights, benefits etc that the latter party has committed itself too - there is one question to be asked - What right matters if you're not alive?

For those still wondering - I invite you to read spend some time considering the very graphic (DO NOT WATCH WITH CHILDREN) videos at the links shown below. In these videos film star and singing idol Eduardo Verastegui talks about the more than 1 million babies (the numbers are said to be 4000-4400/day) aborted in America each year, and the more than 200,000 Latino babies aborted per year are . He continues by revealing Obama's history on abortion - opposing bans on partial birth abortion, opposing the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, and opposing parental involvement when a minor girl is abused; he supports financing abortion with tax dollars."

Watch the video and get media DOWNLOADS at:

The source that provided me with this email included the following contact information:

Spokesmen are available for interviews in English and Spanish.
FOR MORE INFORMATION:Valerie Mosher(202) 488-7000, ext. 126

God bless America (+)

Stephen